zaterdag 19 augustus 2017

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dinsdag 8 augustus 2017

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dinsdag 11 juli 2017


Uitbreiding Lievens natuurbroed stamlijnen.

Nog andere juweeltjes op het hok zijn deze zeegroene papegaaiamadines. Van licht zeegroen naar diep donker zeegroen. . .

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4 mannen zeegroene rk.papegaaiamadine

Jonge vogels of tweejarige, in zeegroen of lutino.
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zaterdag 4 februari 2017

Het levende juweel vereeuwigd...

De gouldamadine ,
levend juweel,
de wereld rond graag gezien,

... die blijk geven van mateloze bewondering voor één van Moeder Natuur's mooiste juweeltjes.

woensdag 27 januari 2016

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zaterdag 23 januari 2016

Chain-fosterer's statement of the century,
anno 2016 still splattered all over the internet

In a world rendered to become but a large village by globalised media, if it were solely up to internet-worldwide statements like Fidler's to decide on merit and credibility, then where are we going to ? Where are we bound to end up ? Is it anno 2016 really up to this kind of statements, not only to decide on merit and credibility, but also attempting to decide on skill and willingness ? Especially when establishing that this same person takes the liberty of making the obscure statements in the way he does, smoothly appeasing and easing the greedy bunch... whilst in the proces all too gladly forgetting to emphasize he himself is a somewhat "slightly-heavily" biased party in this matter. Why so, one might wonder...

Mike Fidler gouldian finch complete soft food sprouting seeds, Birds r us at on fostering matters talking pretentious and irresponsable always trying to cloud the obvious commercial intentions brutalising nature's by practising systematical selection falsification; selectievervalsing door pleegbroedfabrieken


is a great supplementary technique but very labour intensive and time consuming. A large number of people think that fostering is the easy option, where, in fact, nothing is further from the truth. It takes a lot of preparation and a lot of skill to foster..."
                             (according to Mike Fidler, former chain-fosterer)

Whatever could this person mean... and what are his intentions when promoting artificial selection falsification by claiming skill and effort in doing so ?... seemingly not the least hampered by any shame...

How's that Jack..?
And subsequently... what about the skill of respecting nature's mechanisms by practising the original of breeding gouldians in a natural manner...?? Come again...? Not good enough, is it.. ? Why is that, one wonders ...
MARGIN QUOTING ♫♪♫ If you can't be in awe of Mother Nature, there's something wrong with you.
Alex Trebek
Now what in fact is the essence here of Fidler's above claim "nothing is further from the truth"...?, the above actually being a formidable promotion for artificial gouldian foster practices, attempting to obscure the obvious. For the obvious no longer permitted to be obvious by creating self-excusing smoke screens, some people are indeed taking other people further from the truth :
...Why indeed, dear Madam, chain-fostering is such an noble occupation (sic), logically only practised by noble people to be admired for their strength of character and endurance(sic), their enourmous technical skills (sic) and delivered labour intensive efforts (sic), because they so willingly invest all they ever can in this immensely time consuming work... (sic).
That is of course, if it were up to internet-worldwide statements like Fidler's to decide on merit and credibility, in a world rendered to become but a large village by globalised media. But is it anno 2016 really up to this kind of statements, not only to decide on merit and credibility, but also attempting to decide on skill and willingness ? Especially when establishing that this same person takes the liberty of making the obscure statements in the way he does, smoothly appeasing and easing the greedy bunch... while in the proces all too gladly forgetting to emphasize he himself is a somewhat "slightly-heavily" biased party in this matter. Why so, one might wonder...

For did the man stating to the world that "fostering is great" himself not used to be one of thé most woppingly larger-than-life European commercial chain-fosterers of gouldians ever having walked this planet, himself commercially exploiting gouldians by yearly producing up to 3000 fostered birds, or even more... So how much "supplementary" can chain-fostering in fact be...
MARGIN QUOTING ♫♪♫ That's the thing about Mother Nature, she really doesn't care what economic bracket you're in.
Whoopi Goldberg

Meanwhile day-to-day reality is always just behind the pretense-façade, stating in massive numbers, even today :

Chain-fostering by       all means is the technique designed by    and for    the u t m ost and utterly technically unskilled and unqualified, but at the same instant also improper-business minded men and large scale selection-falsifiers, strictly prioritising "economic sense", each of them yearly and individually chain-producing multiple hundreds, even thousands of weak-weaker-weakest birds with increasingly deviating social characteristics and - generation by generation- steadily increasing degeneration in auto-productivity and parental behaviour. All of these actions year after year carried out with one main priority only : reaching high production numbers in order to achieve what is smoothly referred to as "economic sense". Commercially preying on a bird species makes "economic sense" indeed. No doubt about it. Common sense calls it "commercial exploitation of gouldians".

That’s the way the cooky crumbles, has always crumbled, and will always be admitted to remain crumbling… as long as statements as Mike Fidler's above are declared a good enough example to be followed, despite all of its adverse effects on health, stamina and productivity of the species.

Since the mid 70's natural breeding pioneers of gouldians have been carrying the torch, steadily and cautiously securing nature's mechanisms to ensure health and strength of the species. Within their sustained efforts lies real technical skill and expertise, for decades on end protecting the gouldian as a species.
Since the early 90’s chain-fostering is within the breeders' circuit increasingly louder being called by its true colours, chain-fostering for decades having commercially been preying upon the gouldian as a species, in the process causing and deteriorating all of the established degeneration effects.
As such, its true colours of falsifying selection and species’ weakening features today still increasingly emerge, ever increasingly mortgaging the authentic nature and character of the species.
While all of the time, there has always been the other option, with respect for nature's mechanisms. It was primarily the Dutch –being backed up by some foreign pioneers- providing the large scale organisation unifying all those being willing and able to breed gouldians in a natural manner within a sustained and prolonged model, without damaging health nor parental capabilities of the own species.
Only if and when they are really good at what they are doing, natural breeders of (parent-raised) gouldians will on average get 5-6 young gouldians per couple, per season. But at least it will be gouldians bred without falsifying nature’s mechanisms, protecting the gouldian’s enormous, natural self-reproductive ability.

Of course no chain-fosterer’s mentality will ever find itself indulged and gratified when having to work harder for much lesser outcome and revenue, remembering Fidler’s (internet published) fostering goal of -hold on to your socks!- 25 up to 30 young gouldians per production gouldian couple, per year, when subsequently being "faced with the horror" of natural- breeding-results at the most delivering “only 5" naturally parent raised young gouldians on average per couple, per year. Of course only if and when one actually is prepared to give it tremendously more effort and skill than chain-fosterers as a rule indulge themselves to do.

On the other end of the spectrum, no sensible man or woman alive on this planet - while respecting nature’s mechanisms-, will even dream of being able to yearly realise authentical breeding results of 25-30 young gouldians on average out of one breeding pair; figures entirely as chain-fosterers anno 2016 plainly keep on declaring to be so called “normal objectives”. And of course this kind of contra-natural objective indeed becomes quite possible to achieve when artificially preying on the gouldian for the sole purpose of big numbers – and big bucks. In the meantime it is the gouldian as a species paying the price, each generation increasingly ever more.
Today the natural approach of actually breeding authentic parent- raised gouldians has provided the opportunity for willing and able breeders from around the world to step into the natural breeding initiative as officially issued in the Netherlands in the early 90's. Since the mid 90's there even exists a specialised club solely for natural breeders of gouldians, handling a strictly regulated membership today counting some 700-800 inspired, skilled and  willing gouldian breeders from all corners of the world. A membership number steadily rising.

All of these skilled and willing breeders have carefully thought it through :
If artificially fostering gouldians while falsifying selection indeed really were to be so “great”, as dear Mr. Fidler is splattering over the internet in an extensive promotion article smoothing over his chain-fostering past, how much greater then is naturally breeding parent-raised gouldians, not damaging but indeed respecting nature’s mechanisms. Simply so as not to weaken and hollow the species – weakening and hollowing the species being year after year done by each and every chain-fosterer and their specialised predation on the species… - Keeping up appearances has long enough outlived its expiration date, for common sense urges : "How much supplementary is yearly producing 3000 degenerating gouldians..."
MARGIN QUOTING ♫♪♫ Mother Nature may be forgiving this year, or next year, but eventually she's going to come around and whack you.
Geraldo Rivera
So exactly how much a protector of the gouldian species can one be, when clearly speaking and acting like a predator on the gouldian as a species ? How much supplementary can that be? No one can outsmart nature for too long. High time for renewed respect towards mother nature's mechanisms. Moreover, better beware if one does not, for all abuse always comes boomeranging back in a big long arc curve, no matter what pretense-façade is being held up.

In the meantime :

"Breeding strong and capable gouldians without renouncing nature's mechanisms, consequently keeping far away from any chain-foster selection falsification whatsoever, is protecting the species, at the same time securing the species’ future for man's generations to come."
                                                        (dixit Ivan W.J. Lievens,
                                   natural breeding pioneer of gouldians)

As such :
What kind of man alive on this planet will honestly dare placing himself above Mother Nature's mechanisms, haughtily declaring a paradigm shift ?
For all sincerely benevolent breeders of gouldians there is no -nor has there ever been- a paradigm shift of nature's original, despite any feints whatsoever : respect for nature's mechanisms applies to all. All the rest regrettably is much further from the truth.
Too much.

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vrijdag 22 januari 2016

In 2016 
What kind of gouldian keeper will you be ?

Everyone gets to choose

In 2016


Do you wanna be a true breeder of gouldians ? or a counterfeiting foster manufacturer, weakening gouldian strains ?

Do you wanna be a true gouldian finch lover? or a chemo drugging counterfeiter of gouldians, weakening gouldian strains ?

Everyone gets to choose.


How about you ?
What will you do ? How will you act ?

Respectful of Nature ?
Or something less ?


What kind of gouldian keeper will you be in 2016 ?